Somebody doesn't get it

Leslie said:
*not American*

so how is yours different from mine except for the learning from mom (or best buddy's mom), or the even more comfortable home environment? oooooooh my group of kids are with a more diverse group of children. That must be what makes it bad?
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I thought you WERENT a home educator Leslie? :confused:

Hardly diverse if theres only a hand full of kids.
 
of course those are they only kids they ever see, and they never ever talk to an adult either :retard:

I'm not a homeschooler, but I firmly believe in it, and I sorely wish I had the resources to accomplish it all myself. I know that my children are suffering irreparable harm in the school system, and feel helpless to stop it.
 
HOLD IT!!!!

Let's start by defining a few things.

Diverse-synonomous with different.

How many kids qualify as diverse?

My son's best friend (negro) just moved away. 3 of 8 other children in his age range are hispanic. 6/11 are female. We have a lesbian couple & a Mormon couple nearby. A bunch of singles, several shack-ups & multiple marrieds live on our street. Some are poor. Most are lower middle class. One couple are, *feined shock*, entrepeneurs. One womans dad owns a chain of successful restaurants. 2 or 3 are even unemployed. Most moms work, as do most dads. My wife is the only "stay-at-home" mom. She used to be somebody. Now she is nobody. Or that's how others perceive it.

Are we diverse enough?
 
'Course not. You're not doing it under the firm but tender guidance of the gov't, so it isn't enough. You're not schooling your kids under gov't methods either, so youi're doing them a disservice.

Isn't that the point being argued here?
 
IMHO - homschooling had its part in a child's education, as does the education system. Both MRsBish and I work. We can't homeschool, though it's tempting. It's not that the regular education system is faulty, but that it is fairly overcroded and the 30-1 (student/teacher) ratio doesn't make me feel as if my child would get a fair amount of attention should he fall behind. I have a few years before this happens, though I can lay a parallel for you all if you'd like.

We don't use daycare...my son is watched by his grandparents (both sets) during the week. He has a good combination of 1-1 attention some of the day and social interraction through play with local kids (in three languages/different ages/several races). I doubt that he's missing out on anything, except perhaps head-lice and head-colds *both of whom make the rounds of daycares and kindergartens often enough*.

Eventually, he'll have to learn the more elaborate skills, most of which I feel that we could teach him at home, but for which we do not have the time. If we could pull it off, it would only be for a certain period of time and then we'd have to place him within a school. There are issues regarding how long a child may be homeschooled before it is no longer 'counted as real schooling' by the Ministry.

I've seen success in spades with home-schooling, where the parents accelerated their child beyond their years. I've seen it fail miserably as well, with a child entering the school system 2 years below their age-counterparts.

Let's just say that its not for everyone. Personally...I'll probably end up weekend-schooling my children to give them the edge :D
 
30-1 (student/teacher) ratio doesn't make me feel as if my child would get a fair amount of attention should he fall behind.
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Explain the Asian advantage.
 
MrBishop said:
Personally...I'll probably end up weekend-schooling my children to give them the edge :D
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that's a good point too... parents can make up for a lot of the gaps in all those hours their kids are not at school, if willing to spend the time

that way they get the good, bad and ugly of real life... plus the edge needed to keep them well-educated
 
Gonz said:
Explain the Asian advantage.
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Longer school year and an altogether stricker mandate for the teachers and the students. More respect by the students towards their teachers and for the role of education towards a more succesful future.

All of these lead to less distractions, less disruptions and more effort.
 
Gonz said:
HOLD IT!!!!

Let's start by defining a few things.

Diverse-synonomous with different.

How many kids qualify as diverse?

My son's best friend (negro) just moved away. 3 of 8 other children in his age range are hispanic. 6/11 are female. We have a lesbian couple & a Mormon couple nearby. A bunch of singles, several shack-ups & multiple marrieds live on our street. Some are poor. Most are lower middle class. One couple are, *feined shock*, entrepeneurs. One womans dad owns a chain of successful restaurants. 2 or 3 are even unemployed. Most moms work, as do most dads. My wife is the only "stay-at-home" mom. She used to be somebody. Now she is nobody. Or that's how others perceive it.

Are we diverse enough?
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apparently not. and your wife is not nobody just because she isnt working. a housewife is someone.I am assuming she made that choice herself to stay at home.
 
We made the choice...after long hours of weighing both sides. If she's not a nobody then why comments like;
"I wish we could afford to stay home. By the way, could you do something for me since you're not busy." or "I wish I could take it easy all the time".
 
Gonz said:
We made the choice...after long hours of weighing both sides. If she's not a nobody then why comments like;
"I wish we could afford to stay home. By the way, could you do something for me since you're not busy." or "I wish I could take it easy all the time".
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Yep. Mine hears that a lot. I'd like to see some of these idiots try to do what my wife does day after day without losing their minds. I know I couldn't.
 
i have three boys, and honestly, work is a break compared to dealing with them all the time... no easy task at all... even for the limited time i take over in the evenings

my wife was a teacher for many years, then she switched to running a preschool at home, which adds another two to three to the mix during the school year... which brings up another positive about sending your kids off to school... no matter how much of a saint you are, a regular break from the little devils is essential to anyone's sanity
 
Gonz said:
We made the choice...after long hours of weighing both sides. If she's not a nobody then why comments like;
"I wish we could afford to stay home. By the way, could you do something for me since you're not busy." or "I wish I could take it easy all the time".
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because other people are assholes? they maybe jealous that she can handle it so well. but remember you said it yourself. you guys made the choice.
 
I should point out that the song playing on my CD player right now is Pink Floyd's "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)." Anyone who's listneed to the lyrics and seen the movie version would understand why that's relevant.

CB, as a qualified teacher, you should know that the following are STATEMENTS, not QUESTIONS:

ClaireBear said:
I don't understand Gonz?
I thought you WERENT a home educator Leslie?
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I will probably end up sending my kids to public school someday, but you can rest assured that I'll be taking the time to make sure my kids know their spelling, grammar and punctuation.
 
It is. all I can say is


hey teacher! Leave those Kids alone. All in all you are just another Brick in the wall


sorry Aaron. I am afan of Floyds. Couldnt resist
 
Inkara1 said:
CB, as a qualified teacher, you should know that the following are STATEMENTS, not QUESTIONS:


I will probably end up sending my kids to public school someday, but you can rest assured that I'll be taking the time to make sure my kids know their spelling, grammar and punctuation.
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It's called a frickin typo! :rolleyes: (In some forums do this ??? you get :confused: but in my haste I just put ? )

I'm not sitting in the comfort of my home... I'm at work and was then!... I was doing about 4 jobs at once... and to actually pick up a persons mistypes in an argument... really scraping the bottom of the barrel there! :rolleyes:
 
MrBishop said:
Let's just say that its not for everyone. Personally...I'll probably end up weekend-schooling my children to give them the edge :D
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Actually Bish... thats just being a competant parent!

I believe most decent parents "home educate" without even realising it... enriching their children's lives by just caring for their development and welfare outside of school hours, adding to and aiding their educational development.
 
ClaireBear said:
It's called a frickin typo! :rolleyes: (In some forums do this ??? you get :confused: but in my haste I just put ? )

I'm not sitting in the comfort of my home... I'm at work and was then!... I was doing about 4 jobs at once... and to actually pick up a persons mistypes in an argument... really scraping the bottom of the barrel there! :rolleyes:
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Bullshit. Once is a typo. It's a consistent pattern from you.
 
Inkara1 said:
Bullshit. Once is a typo. It's a consistent pattern from you.
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Fine... believe what you like... if you get off on supersilious, pedantic, pernickety pick ups then fine...

But you do realise that most people on forums type in a free hand style... relating to speech and the spoken word rather than sticking to the traditional grammar and punctuation.

And its relevance to the topic in hand is.... :confused:
 
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