The Dixie Carps

[Gonz]

After the initial outburst, they went away & all was quiet. Then they apologized & all was mostly well. Then she retracted the apology & hasn't shut up since.

The conservatives are reacting...not dragging it on & on & on.

 

[highwayman]

Interesting you said that after you said..

She might be spouting shit, so what?

The so what is that Maines is an entertainer and not in a position to voice a political or person opinion of the leadership of America...

 

[chcr]

How is expressing an opinion anti-american? Complete bollocks. As various have said, they're allowed their opinions, you're allowed yours, and you're certainly free to not spend money at their concerts. End of matter.

Don't you just wish? I know I do.

I'm too stupid to stop though, huh?

 

[highwayman]

How is expressing an opinion anti-american? Complete bollocks. As various have said, they're allowed their opinions, you're allowed yours, and you're certainly free to not spend money at their concerts. End of matter.

Maines is entitled to an opinion, consider were the opinions are being expressed...Off American Soil!!! That mean she is not brave enough to state anything on American Soil...

 

[chcr]

Interesting you said that after you said..



The so what is that Maines is an entertainer and not in a position to voice a political or person opinion of the leadership of America...

Where have you been????

Ronald Reagan was an entertainer and not in a position to voice a political or person opinion of the leadership of America...

The governator is an entertainer and not in a position to voice a political or person opinion of the leadership of America...

It's only a bad thing if you don't agree with it?????

 

[chcr]

After the initial outburst, they went away & all was quiet. Then they apologized & all was mostly well. Then she retracted the apology & hasn't shut up since.

The conservatives are reacting...not dragging it on & on & on.

So she's an idiot (I believe I mentioned that before). The conservative press is required to follow suit?

 

[spike]

What's "mouth like a carp" mean anyway? This is a dumb thread.

The idiot who wrote the article has their site down at the moment too.

 

[2minkey]

What's "mouth like a carp" mean anyway? This is a dumb thread.

most of them are...

 

[spike]

 

[Gonz]

most of them are...

You are more than welcome to improve that oh silent one.

 

[highwayman]

This goes to show your lack of memory and the knowledge of the diference of being an elected official and a private citizen..

Ronald Reagan was an entertainer and not in a position to voice a political or person opinion of the leadership of America...

Ronald Reagan had been elected as the 40th president of The united states after serving as governer of California and now past away...

The governator is an entertainer and not in a position to voice a political or person opinion of the leadership of America...

Also a an elected Governer of California..

It's only a bad thing if you don't agree with it

There is nothing that is written that is enforced that says that it requirement that I need to agree with what has been said publicly.

In case you have not noticed Maines is not an elected official and she has every right to speak her mind...Only when it is on American soil...

 

[unclehobart]

I don't worry about the Dixie Chix. I still spend all of my effort dissin' Joan Baez.

 

[chcr]

Highway, the point was that you clearly believe that entertainers are only allowed to be political if you approve of their political views. Interesting view, but not what America is supposed to be about. Gonz is a bit more liberal. They're allowed to have opinions, they're just not supposed to say them out loud.

You both miss the larger point. Yes, the Dixie Chicks (well Natalie, anyway) were stupid in a) not realizing who their fan base were and b) not recognizing the shit storm that the comments would bring. Still, the conservative press was completely out of line for castigating them and a lot of self-professed "patriots" have a severely limited understanding of what "freedom of speech" implies. I've said it a few times before, but it bears repeating. Freedom of speech is meaningless unless someone else has the freedom to say that which makes your blood boil. You, of course, are free to disagree, but condemnation of someone for having a differing opinion is just wrong and that's what the conservatives are doing in this case.

In America private citizens have the right to express their political views. If this presents a problem, leave.

 

[spike]

Reagan and the governator both expressed their opinions before they were elected officials.

 

[Gonz]

They're allowed to have opinions, they're just not supposed to say them out loud.

Been there, done that.

She can say anything she damn well pleases. ...she tends to use if off American soil

Why does she have to go overseas )or in this case, across our northern border, to speak?[/quote]

She has a right to free expression.

The difference is, she is speaking about America & Americans to those off our shores, looking for support to what is clearly not American policy & she has the media asking for her opinion.

There was a time when politics stopped at the waters edge.

 

[Gonz]

Reagan and the governator both expressed their opinions before they were elected officials.

Once they began running for office, it counted. Previous to then, it was more noise. Although, since neither were liberals, they got very little attention.

 

[chcr]

Once they began running for office, it counted. Previous to then, it was more noise. Although, since neither were liberals, they got very little attention.

And, of course, being branded liberals the Dixie Chicks got a whole lot of attention, all of it negative. Look at this thread, they're still getting it.

Piss and moan all you want, Gonz. You will anyway. Thanks for making the point for me though.

Question: If there aren't any conservatives in the republican party why does the Chick's opposing them make them necessarily liberals?

 

[2minkey]

You are more than welcome to improve that oh silent one.

you've whined about the same thing. either do something about it or stop whining about my...

but why bother?

it's been proven time and time again that only a few folks - and only in certain contexts - are willing to entertain much more than "kneejerk" levels of discussion.

but no one came here to debate anything particularly profound. geez half the fuckin' posts here are along the lines of "mexicans getting uppity - fucking criminals want rights in country they border-hopped into" or "bush is a dumpity dumb dumb dumb dumpkin doodle dummy."

this thread is a prime example. dumb, sure. but "carp mouth" is kinda funny.

maybe we should start threads like "epistemological limitations of american pragmatism in..." whatever.

nope, that that would be.... dumb.

 

[chcr]

Do you really think most Americans are pragmatic?

Natalie Maine certainly isn't.

 

[2minkey]

nah of course they they ain't no more, because thems liberals killed the "work ethic" hah hah hah...