ResearchMonkey
Well-Known Member
ditto
misdemeanors are minor crimes by definition. like i said before, i'm not willing to label someone as a "fucking criminal" with all of the moral condemnation that phrase suggests for a misdemeanor. in other words, i think it would be stupid to say that someone is of criminal character because of a minor infraction. i'm sure we have plenty of people that post on this board that have committed a misdemeanor, but who are not "fucking criminals" in a broader sense.
minkey said:i did not say that. quit trying to polarize shit so that you can have a point.
in other words, i think it would be stupid to say that someone is of criminal character because of a minor infraction
Like I said. You have a problem with the word criminal. Not my fault, yours.
Can't polarize something you've already polarized. Your statement above is quite telling...
By definition, they are already criminals. Doesn't really matter as to the degree of the crime, as they continue to pursue the behavior.
misdemeanors are minor crimes by definition. like i said before, i'm not willing to label someone as a "fucking criminal" with all of the moral condemnation that phrase suggests for a misdemeanor. in other words, i think it would be stupid to say that someone is of criminal character because of a minor infraction. i'm sure we have plenty of people that post on this board that have committed a misdemeanor, but who are not "fucking criminals" in a broader sense.
i did not say that. quit trying to polarize shit so that you can have a point.
You get too wrapped up in your own emotional judgment on the severity; and you ignore the ongoing aspects of the crime and its long term effect on society.
it has nothing to do with emotions. i'm not particularly sympathetic to those people. we do need to control illegal immigration better. and we do need to let in more legal immigrants. what we do not need to do is blame immigrants for our problems, when our problems is us. it's shallow, transparent, and quite unflattering. but, then, i guess if i was directly competing economically with 'em, i might be more upset.
$70? For two weeks' groceries??! Damn...I'm moving down south if y'all can manage to eat on $140/month.
Crossing illegally into Mexico? Fined and returned to country of origin....really scary.
All right, immigration proposals under discussion. Let me add mine to the mix. I want to call this proposal the Limbaugh Laws. Here they are. First, if you immigrate to the United States of America, you must speak the native language. You have to be a professional or an investor. We are not going to take unskilled workers. You will not be allowed. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no special ballots for elections, no government business will be conducted in your native language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote, I don't care how long they are here, nor will they ever be allowed to hold political office. According to the Limbaugh Laws, if you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled, ever, to welfare, to food stamps, or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. If you don't know have that amount of money, you can't come and invest. You have to stay home. If you do come and you want to buy land, okay, but we're going to restrict your options. You will not be allowed to buy waterfront property in the United States. That will be reserved for citizens naturally born in this country.
In fact, as a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to property. These are the Limbaugh Laws. Another thing. You don't have the right to protest when you come here. You're allowed no demonstrations, you cannot wave a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies, or you get sent home. You're a foreigner. You shut your mouth or you get out, and if you come here illegally, you go straight to jail and we're going to hunt you down 'til we find you.
I can imagine many of you think that the Limbaugh Laws are pretty harsh. I imagine today some of you probably are going, "Yeah! Yeah!" Well, let me tell you this, folks. Every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico, today. I just read you Mexican immigration law. That's how the Mexican government handles immigrants to their country. Yet Mexicans and others come here illegally, they protest in our streets, they get on our welfare program, and we have members of the United States Senate, both parties, doing handstands and back flips, going through every contortion possible to allow it to continue so that it doesn't make these people mad, resulting in votes against these linguini-spined populations.
Havn't been priced that low in over a decade, here.You obviously don't know how to eat cheap. Mac 'n cheese @ .50 per box goes a long way.
what am i missing?
that mexicans are gonna take over and suck all the little dollars out of my wallet? please. the only dollars of mine that benefit mexicans are the ones i pay directly to my housekeeper.
gee, some people exploit government programs. no shit? you know the biggest recipients of welfare here are white christian parkies, right? and who gives a hoot anyway? it's not like there is any system that is invulnerable to parasitism of one form or another.
but they're gonna come for me? what does that even mean? pancho villa is gonna come git my momma?
so you just let me know what i'm missing. because i really don't see thems immigrants impacting my life or lifestyle, ever. except i may need to brush up on my spanish... oh no... a little bit of effort... nah, i'm a true red blooded american, so instead, i'll just complain.