spike said:Yet you say their actions are Legal somehow. How are you defining legal?
A nation has a right and an obligation to defend itself & its citizens from attack, whether that is rebellion, insurrection or outside aggitators.
spike said:Yet you say their actions are Legal somehow. How are you defining legal?
Gonz said:It is.
A nation has a right and an obligation to defend itself & its citizens from attack, whether that is rebellion, insurrection or outside aggitators.
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.
Sure he can. The UN does all the time.spike said:That's just beautiful. You're using the UN to justify the legality of israel's actions and at the same time ignoring the fact that israel breaks more UN mandates than anyone other country.
Can't have it both ways.
Gonz said:Are you suggesting that we. the American people via the US government, step blindly aside, reject all our treaties, dismiss humanity & watch as the Arabs destroy the only sucessful bastion of modern democratic politics in the entire middleeast, finishing the job that Hitler started in 1936?
Just using a source in which you seem to be fond.spike said:That's just beautiful. You're using the UN to justify the legality of israel's actions and at the same time ignoring the fact that israel breaks more UN mandates than anyone other country.
Can't have it both ways.
Gonz said:Are you suggesting that we. the American people via the US government, step blindly aside, reject all our treaties, dismiss humanity & watch as the Arabs destroy the only sucessful bastion of modern democratic politics in the entire middleeast, finishing the job that Hitler started in 1936?
Gonz said:Well?
Just using a source in which you seem to be fond.
spike said:one of the most law breaking, treaty ignoring nations in existence and spend that money improving the lives of US taxpayers.
spike said:If your going to claim "legal" you need a source that views their actions as legal.
Gonz said:
spike said:
"There are 149 substantive articles of the Fourth Geneva Convention that protect the rights of every one of these Palestinians living in occupied Palestine. The Israeli Government is currently violating, and has since 1967 been violating, almost each and every one of these sacred rights of the Palestinian People recognized by the Fourth Geneva Convention. Indeed, violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention are war crimes."
Sabra-Shatila
Gonz said:source?
condemnation...nice justice system, or is it a PC move for appeasel?
spike said:Killing civilians is killing civilians. I am not apologizing for the terrorists on either side. israelites can protect themselves and palestinians can protect themselves. Both sides cause terror, although israel kills more civilians.
You seem to be ignoring my questions on the definition of "legal".
2minkey said:so using durandals in urban areas is akin to a brake failure? WTF?