10 people I know for a fact have taken (partied with) crystal...4 are still in trouble, 6 are raising their kids. 
DWI - how to stop it?
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Winky
Well-Known Member
I done all that crap (OK it was over 25+ years ago)
I had great respect for the dangers of coke smack and meth
but I never let any of it take control of me.
ya gotta have yer shit wired prudy tight to do hard drugs
problem is folks that do it usually have more than one screw loose
to start with and use the drugs as an excuse to come undone
She's come undone
She didn't know what she was headed for
And when I found what she was headed for
Mama, it was too late
It's too late
She's gone too far
She's lost the sun
She's come undone
I had great respect for the dangers of coke smack and meth
but I never let any of it take control of me.
ya gotta have yer shit wired prudy tight to do hard drugs
problem is folks that do it usually have more than one screw loose
to start with and use the drugs as an excuse to come undone
She's come undone
She didn't know what she was headed for
And when I found what she was headed for
Mama, it was too late
It's too late
She's gone too far
She's lost the sun
She's come undone
simplyred
New Member
I wonder if perhaps their excuse to do the drugs was because of "loose screws" and their life rather than to actually "come undone".
simplyred
New Member
Okay, so once again I will say SOME PEOPLE CAN NOT STOP ANY TIME THEY WANT! It is a medically proved fact that drugs work differently on different people. Some become actually addicted, and almost immediately. It is all in how your brain chemistry is working and whether the particular substance binds in a certian way to your neuro receptors.
I completely agree that drugs are bad. It is a bad decision. I happen to be one of those people that can put it down and walk away, but some people aren't. Wouldn't it be best to actually help people who are addicted to drugs? Wouldn't it be wonderful if they were able to reform and live the productive life they were most likely intended without all the "screws loose" or addiction? How can these people be helped, drunk driving be stopped, ect when comments (or the mentality) is just to put it down and walk away? Alocholism and Addiction...they are diseases. Just like cancer is a disease. Would you say to someone with cancer to just put the bottle down?
Two of my loved ones were killed in a drunk driving accident. Forgivness and letting go...it dosen't come easily. It sucks when people die needlessly. Espically when the guy could have just called a cab. I just don't feel that these issues in our society can be resolved without compassion and education.
Forgive me for my soap box.
If it worked, yes. Too bad that a disease is not so easily cured. Addiction & alcoholism are choices.
I smoked cigarettes for 30 years. My addiction was not a disease. My quitting did not take expert medical care under carefully guarded circumstances. I quit. It was hard but my desire to stop outweighed my desore to continue.
I drank like a fish for almost two decades. Functional alcohilc would have easily categorized me. I got bored & stopped drinking. No doctors, no meetings where today is the rest of my life.
99.9% of addictions are cured by the addict stopping the behavior. The other .1% die. Too bad, they could have put down the bottle.
Winky
Well-Known Member
Well crap then Gonz I guess you can't be in the 'screws loose'
category...
yeah I'm completely in the "it ain't no fricken disease" camp
I (we) know better, the losers that can't get their shit together
keep their shit wired and fly right want the rest of us to believe
that it outta their control. Red you seem like a sweet person,
just the kind these folks love to use. My Dad was an alky while
I was growin' up and so was the wife’s. My Dad quit it once he
realized he'd croak if he didn't and lived to 82, her Dad kept goin'
and died alone in his sixties. Both lost everything cuz of booze.
When me and the wife got together a quarter century ago she
tolded me "if yer gonna keep drinkin' & a druggin' yer a sleepin' alone"
Now I mighta been stupid but I ain't silly heh gave that crap up
and ain't nevah looked back.
yeah theys gots a Die-ese and we’s gotta let em' drive drunk
and kill us, its the American way!
category...
yeah I'm completely in the "it ain't no fricken disease" camp
I (we) know better, the losers that can't get their shit together
keep their shit wired and fly right want the rest of us to believe
that it outta their control. Red you seem like a sweet person,
just the kind these folks love to use. My Dad was an alky while
I was growin' up and so was the wife’s. My Dad quit it once he
realized he'd croak if he didn't and lived to 82, her Dad kept goin'
and died alone in his sixties. Both lost everything cuz of booze.
When me and the wife got together a quarter century ago she
tolded me "if yer gonna keep drinkin' & a druggin' yer a sleepin' alone"
Now I mighta been stupid but I ain't silly heh gave that crap up
and ain't nevah looked back.
yeah theys gots a Die-ese and we’s gotta let em' drive drunk
and kill us, its the American way!
chcr
Too cute for words
I'm afraid I'm in the "not a disease" camp as well. I recognize that there are those that can't stop without help, but they made the decisions that led them to it. If they really wanted to stop, they'd seek help, wouldn't they. If you have a disease, you do want it to stop.
If they really wanted to stop, they'd seek help, wouldn't they. If you have a disease, you do want it to stop.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
I'll take the over on that .1% whenever yer ready.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
simplyred
New Member
The idea sounds great, at first I had the objection that a diabetic can exibit the same symptoms as someone who was drunk...even fail a breath blow test. But then I thought that perhaps in this condition they shouldn't be driving either.
Winky
Well-Known Member
depends on your social skillz I suppose?
Winky
Well-Known Member
Excellent!
The only way around it is if the have a sober person start the car.
and perhaps operate it as well?
tonksy
New Member
Well, that would be ideal...but I fear too much to hope for....unless the car really is good at detecting irratic driving.
simplyred
New Member
Guess I'd have to give up that talking on the cell phone bit while driving. While I think I'm not too bad at it others that ride with me grip the "oh shit" handle in fear.