highwayman
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MrBishop said:
The emissions from todays cars are substantualy lowere then what it had been in the 70s...
I would go with the genoside on the unions and then address the political issues..
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The emissions from todays cars are substantualy lowere then what it had been in the 70s...
I would go with the genoside on the unions and then address the political issues..
MrBishop
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highwayman said:
The Unions ARE the political issues.
Today's car emissions could've been done in the 70's... today's car emissions should be near zero.... nobody pushed the car manufacturers.
Why should manufacturers research and put out zero emission cars when they're selling cars that barely meet requirements now..and make a profit doing it?
Why are there still coal-fired power plants? Oil burning power plants? Oil heating in homes and businesses?
Two answers:
1) laziness
2) greed
take you pick...neither is good enough IMHO.
Professur
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MrBishop said:The Unions ARE the political issues.
Today's car emissions could've been done in the 70's... today's car emissions should be near zero.... nobody pushed the car manufacturers.
Why should manufacturers research and put out zero emission cars when they're selling cars that barely meet requirements now..and make a profit doing it?
Why are there still coal-fired power plants? Oil burning power plants? Oil heating in homes and businesses?
Two answers:
1) laziness
2) greed
take you pick...neither is good enough IMHO.
You missed one. Market.
Without the usual tree hugger stupidity, take a good long look at what's on the road today. The factories are making low emission cars now. The problem is that noone's buying them. They're even making hybrid SUVs now. Who's buying them? Noone, that who.
Oh, and ... remind me what you drive again, Mr. Social Conscience?
highwayman
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This is what I drive, bet he can bust it...
Professur said:
They can make all the Hybrids they want because most people won't buy them. They cost a lot, they are slow, neither are what Americans want.
I sold cars and I can tell you people don't want weak, slow and small cars unless that is all they can afford to buy.
They want BIG, FAST and POWERFUL.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
With the exception of those of us who want trucks. 4X4 trucks. Manual tranny, sliding rear window, ain't-afraid-to-get-it-dirty trucks.
Trucks rule.
Trucks rule.
Professur
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Hybrids still have one big deficiency. Energy density. I saw a GM concept hybrid over a decade ago, using a 100 lbs gas turbine engine mated to a flywheel. The energy density numbers were incredible (for ten years ago) but the technology just wasn't marketable. Noone would want to have to take their car to the airport to find a mechanic.
Today, if you buy any 'green' car, you're shafted (par'd the pun) for repair/maintenance. Even the dealerships usually only have one guy capable of working on it ... when he's not out getting even more training.
There's a maximum speed that new technology can be introduced to a market this size.
Today, if you buy any 'green' car, you're shafted (par'd the pun) for repair/maintenance. Even the dealerships usually only have one guy capable of working on it ... when he's not out getting even more training.
There's a maximum speed that new technology can be introduced to a market this size.
highwayman
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SouthernN'Proud said:
I'll stick with my auto trans, care to loan me your sliding rear window?
