Little Mosque On The Prairie
- Thread starter SouthernN'Proud
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chcr
Too cute for words
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
You live in my house?
Then STFU when you don't know what you are talking about. I'll refrain from putting a percentage on that.
spike
New Member
Once again it seems you should be taking your own advice.
freako104
Well-Known Member
It never happened, in that sense.
Except that whenever some fool does something stupid in the name of Christianity, the Christians come out of the woodwork to negate that.
A handful of intellectual Muslim scholars (they must have an awful lot of scholars in Muslimland) finally get off their ass & denounce attacks (often years old), with caveats, is hardly an equitable comparrison.
spike
New Member
Nope, actually christians remain pretty silent. The Pope hasn't even made a comment about Phelps.
Meanwhile muslims have come out of the woodwork to denounce terrorism.
http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm
Meanwhile muslims have come out of the woodwork to denounce terrorism.
http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Sorry Gato, but it's and easy thing to say from here. 95% or more of people will put personal safety ahead of doing the right thing when push comes to shove. The leaders who can get a group moving against such instincts are rare indeed. Even rarer in many middle-eastern countries, I suspect. The culture is one of conformity and non-conformists are dealt with quickly and harshly.An idea like freedom has to have some fertile ground to take root and I think that's a rare commodity in most of the middle-east. Not that I don't think it can happen, but it has to start with a fundamental shift in philosophy which I don't think very many there are prepared to embrace.
Sorry, but I don't buy that. These are some of the same people that talk about maltreatment from everybody else, so its extremely hard to believe that they can't see it in themselves when they're doing it to others. This has nothing to do with freedom.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
MrBishop
Well-Known Member
SnP's use of the word 'crusade' isn't appropos then, or have you forgotten all about the multiple crusades?
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
Crusade is not limited to one military event.
Spike, since you don't live in my house, would you mind too terribly telling the rest of the class precisely how you know what I do and do not spend my time doing when I'm home? Invasion of privacy is a crime.
MrBishop
Well-Known Member
I understand, but it is a useful term to describe a period of time where the Christian Pontiff declared religious wars against the Muslims and other non-believers in the middle-east with no quarter given, in order to regain 'the Holy land'.
It wasn't' successful...but it was effectively a jihad.
chcr
Too cute for words
You know, it occurs to me that when Bush accidently called the Iraq war a "crusade," he didn't know how accurate he was being. The original Crusades were a horrifying failure too.
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
That's what happens when you don't really want to win...
...Call it what you will, but the US hasn't been in a war since WWII.
MrBishop
Well-Known Member
I think its more of a matter of not defining what a 'win' would be.That's what happens when you don't really want to win...
If a win in Iraq was deposing Saddam..that was over a while back.
If a win in Iraq meant a stable 'democratic' country... that may take a decade and really should've been fought in the board-rooms, and not the battlefield.
chcr
Too cute for words
That's what happens when you don't really want to win...
Couldn't agree more.
spike
New Member
You're avoiding my question of where you get the religious bigotry from if not the tube. I answered your question, now it's your turn.