only for US citizens

do you support an attack to Irak?

  • not an USA citizen

    Votes: 16 100.0%

  • yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • no

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    16
Luis G

Luis G

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do you support an attack to Irak?, not meant to start another almost endless discussion about the moral of war ;) , just want to see your opinions, i read somewhere that the citizen's support for an invasion decreased in 20% last month, is that true?

people that wants to vote but is not from the US, should select "not an USA citizen" :D
 
I voted yes, but not sure really an attack. I think we need to find out what the hell he is up to. If he harboring terrorists, then yes. If he is constructing chemical or nuclear weapons, yes. If he's just still trying to get his country back into shape after the last time we kicked his ass into the sand, then no.
 
I voted no, but I'll explain why...

1. Too many references to Hitler, and not enough evidence to back it up.
2. Too much support for Saddam in the Arab world, so we wouldn't have a forward supply base.
3. Not enough support from our 'allies', so we'd effectively be without help if it dropped into the pot (and it will if we go in there).

If one of the second two options change, then, by all means, finish what we started 12 years ago, but if not...stay out. Hell...even the American people are split close to 50-50 on this, so we'd end up in another Vietnam type of war with wishy-washy support at home, too.
 
i voted yes although i agree more with what gato solo said. i voted yes only because i dont trust Hussein. i am not comparing him to hitler just that he did attack Kuweit(sp?) in the 90s and could(but may not be) harbouring terrorists. same with the nuclear weapons. now if he is trying to as PT said rebuild his country then we should help(yes i know im a stupid idealistic humanitarian). i am naieve stupid idealistic take your pic. but i do feel that he is a threat to the US although he hasnt really done anything so im also somewhat against us attacking. but something i had heard was that many in his country(unless the media is hiding it now or if it was complete bullshit) didnt like him. and another reason i am against it is for the Arab allies we have as well as European and such. they will not back us as Gato said which could be our undoing. but i did vote yes only cause i dont trust him but thats no reason to attack someone but to keep our eye on him.
 
Yes because if we don't do it now, we will have to do it later. Now is always better than later, not to mention we have have 100% support from Israel on this matter, and nearly 100% support from the British Conservative Party and Iaian Duncan Smith.
 
Unfortunately, LL, Israel and the UK opposition party will be small comfort when faced with an entire Arab world pissed off.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Unfortunately, LL, Israel and the UK opposition party will be small comfort when faced with an entire Arab world pissed off.
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Well "pissing off" the entire Arab world seems hardly significant if they plan on launching weapons of mass destruction against the United States and Israel anyways, and potentially the United Kingdom. Not to mention Saddam baby is funding the suicide bombers' families, and there are a LOT of support from exiled Iraqis and some support from the Kurds in northen Iraq.
 
Not so much as you'd think...The first thing we have to do is cut any funding, overt or covert, from any government deemed hostile. Second, we have to wean the world from oil...which we're in the process of with fuel cells. Third, we go in and kick ass because they won't have any modern forces. Long-range planning calls for 6 to 10 years for this to work. We can hold out until then. Trust me ;).
 
First off let me say that the "Too many references to Hitler" statement is a moot point. However, let me also say that there is an understated perception within that point that is more valid. That is that Europe just doesn't give a shit about America and Isreal. That may seem a bit extreme but it's the entire reason they created this new internatianal court. To spite and have a heavy hand over us. If they did care, they would at least have an open mind and consult with us.
"Too much support for Saddam in the Arab world" My god? All the more reason to act now!
Not enough support from our 'allies'
This is where the real trouble lies. Another vietnam? I gotta give you that one. On one hand i feel that Bush would let the military do the job, but on the other we're already kissing arab ass for oil so the question seems to be what route will bush take when the oil mongers bekon and at the same time, American lives are at stake.
An even more fundamental question would be can we afford to wait? Former head of the Iraqi physics program Khidhir Hamza doesn't seem to think so. He feels that at any time Iraq could have a functioning nuclear device. If you actually believe that Europe is ever going to come around then maybe. However I have serious doubts when it comes to this question. So are more lives going to be lost if we attack now, or later. The question is not if, but when. And if it's morally correct should we still do it even if the world says no?
Oh by the way, i painstakingly voted yes.
 
He's attacked other countries. He's developing weapons of mass destruction. He's attacked his own citizens in their own land. He's starving his citizens. He's a murderer. He's a timebomb waiting to go off. He's a shit-for-brains- dictator that is a threat to the free world.

We are the worlds only superpower. We are on the moral high ground. We have to protect Europe from themselves and madmen like saddam. We have "the bomb". We have the ability. We have the courage. We have the will. We are *george thorogood's Bad to the bone intro, like terminator2* badass.

Now or later, we will have to handle it. The Republican Gaurd can't be all wrong. (OH!!!! SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE SURRENDER!!!!!!!!!!)
 
I agree with HeXp£Øi± and Gonz. I can't believe it, but I'm not alone![/siz]

/cheer Hex, very well said.
 
I agree that Hussein must be defeated. Only problem is the REASON Bush may have to do that....I'm sorry, but he's still pissed his daddy didn't finish the job, and uses the attacks on NY to achieve his own goals in Iraq.

Bush would make a HUGE mistake by invading without international support. He must learn that he can't do whatever he wants, because he CAN'T.
 
Shadowfax said:
Bush would make a HUGE mistake by invading without international support. He must learn that he can't do whatever he wants, because he CAN'T.
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Why not? :confuse2:
 
Shadowfax said:
He must learn that he can't do whatever he wants, because he CAN'T.
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Sorry Shadow, but, yes, we can. This is personal for the Americans & not just Dubya. It's the curse of being a superpower.
 
How the hell can you all be so sort-sighted? COME ON! There is more in the world than just the US. Geez....open your eyes!
 
regarding the entire Arab world, fuck 'em. If they choose to side with a non-muslim extremist dictator when our fight isn't with them, well, bring it on. I'd prefer that not happening however, so be it.
 
Shadowfax said:
How the hell can you all be so sort-sighted? COME ON! There is more in the world than just the US. Geez....open your eyes!
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Um and? Why don't you build your own military and do your own peacekeeping in Europe? Why do we have to do it? Why don't the EU look after itself? Looking after itself and its own citizens is the most important thing a nation can do. That is why it is a "nation." Quite frankly, the Europeans have been only a pain in the past few years and I honestly don't see why we can't do what we want. We have the bombs, right?
 
Shadowfax said:
How the hell can you all be so sort-sighted? COME ON! There is more in the world than just the US. Geez....open your eyes!
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Ummm, sorry Shadow, but not in our world there isn't.
 
Shadowfax said:
How the hell can you all be so sort-sighted? COME ON! There is more in the world than just the US. Geez....open your eyes!
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Do YOU know who will be on the short shit-list? Europe. You guys are so much closer. We can save you now or save you after you've lost loved ones & homes & businesses & infrastructure. Take your pick...balls or bail out.
 
Gonz said:
regarding the entire Arab world, fuck 'em. If they choose to side with a non-muslim extremist dictator when our fight isn't with them, well, bring it on. I'd prefer that not happening however, so be it.
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:headbang:
 
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