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Shadowfax
<b>mod cow</b>
Let's make clear that I DON'T support those idiots in the Arab world with their extreme muslim ideas.
But I just TOTALLY disagree with the US' point of view on the rest of the world. OK, you are a superpower, you do have nuclear weapons. SO WHAT?
There is more than just the US in this world, and keep threatening with those bombs? Go ahead! Nuke the whole world. That will never happen, and you know it.
Sorry to say, but some people will have to seriously consider getting their heads out of there ass and take a serious look at the world, instead of staring point blank to what is just happening around in their own country.
But I just TOTALLY disagree with the US' point of view on the rest of the world. OK, you are a superpower, you do have nuclear weapons. SO WHAT?
There is more than just the US in this world, and keep threatening with those bombs? Go ahead! Nuke the whole world. That will never happen, and you know it.
Sorry to say, but some people will have to seriously consider getting their heads out of there ass and take a serious look at the world, instead of staring point blank to what is just happening around in their own country.
Jeslek
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Shadowfax said:
Nukes have a habit of makes cities and armies disappear.
I don't think we are stockpiling 5,000+ nukes just for fun. Use a WMD on us or Israel, and you can be quite sure someone is going to hurt. a lot.
I don't give a shit what is happening in the world. I'm American, and Canadian. I want it to be prosperous in my countries. I want my people to have happy lives. What other people do is none of my concern. I don't have a right to tell them what to do anyways. But, do something that will threaten the safety of my family and my people, and you will get a missile up your ass.
If you [EU] are not for us, you are against us. Cold and simple and truthfully.
Jeslek
Banned
Shadowfax said:
Only because it was EUROPE that was having a shitty time controlling its own people. We don't even have that! We are at war with OTHER people and WE are threatened PERSONALLY. Of course now Europe has to look the other way and whistle "peace" and "don't hurt the poor man Saddam" and "just don't offend the arabs please". Had the US done that in WWI and/or WWII well, we wouldn't be discussing this. All hail, Hitler! would have been the motto on that side of the ocean.
LastLegionary said:
I think that's the smartest thing I've ever heard you say, LL. Seriously, this is it. The simple truth. You don't think we should rule the world, Shadow, cause there are other countries in it too? Well guess what, nobody else wants to step up to the plate and tell these bastards that what they are doing is wrong. We are willing and able to do this, without worrrying about what kind of retaliation the little phucktards can do to us. We have the power, the weapons, and the resolve to do it. Anyone wants to join us, they are more than welcome, but if someone doesn't, they will be on the list to watch from now on, and don't fuck up, or we'll be visiting you with our planes and troops next.
Jeslek
Banned
Shadowfax said:
I recall Bush saying something like "If you are not with us, you are against us." And I also recall Congress passing a law authorizing military force should the EU kidnap one of our citizens (that International Criminal Court). I don't think it is that ridiculous at all.
Remember you are dealing with an angry dog. And one that is very, very hurt, especially now one year after September 11th. Touch, but don't slap. He will bite, and bite to kill.
Shadowfax
<b>mod cow</b>
PT ~ what I'm trying to explain is that Bush uses the attacks on NY to invade Iraq. That is WRONG. If he wants to invade to tackle the regime of Hussein, OK. But don't use those attacks as an excuse.
I don't agree on Husseins regime either, but using those attacks to invade is wrong in my point of view.
Saying that if you don't find terrorists, you agree with them is just not true. Around here we do something about terrorism too, we also search for people supporting Al-Queda. But we don't agree on Bush invading Iraq using the attacks in NY as the reason.
But not agreeing with Bush doesn't mean we harbor terrorists, or agree with them. And you KNOW that.
And LL, you know DAMN well better that the International Criminal Court doesn't KIDNAP US citizens. The ICC is to judge on people who have violated human rights, and NOT!! to kidnap US citizens.
Comments like that are just plain dumb, and untrue.
I don't agree on Husseins regime either, but using those attacks to invade is wrong in my point of view.
Saying that if you don't find terrorists, you agree with them is just not true. Around here we do something about terrorism too, we also search for people supporting Al-Queda. But we don't agree on Bush invading Iraq using the attacks in NY as the reason.
But not agreeing with Bush doesn't mean we harbor terrorists, or agree with them. And you KNOW that.
And LL, you know DAMN well better that the International Criminal Court doesn't KIDNAP US citizens. The ICC is to judge on people who have violated human rights, and NOT!! to kidnap US citizens.
Comments like that are just plain dumb, and untrue.
It may seem that Bush is using the attacks on NY to attack Iraq, and in part, that is true. But there are several other valid reasons for the action as well.
1. They harbor terrorists, ok, may be connected to NY, but it is really a seperate, world issue.
2. They still have not let the UN inspectors have full access to their military bases, allowing us to tell if they have chemical or nuclear weapons.
3. Hussein has a history of attacking without provocation. As Gonz said, do we wait until the casualty count is at a certain point before we attack again, or stop the count now.
You can disagree with what our President says, that is anyones perogative, including everyone that lives in the US, but in this case, I think he's on the ball. Iraq is a time bomb in the middle east that will go off, it's just a question of when at this point. And I'm sorry if this offends you Shadow, cause otherwise I do like you, but, if you are not backing people that are fighting terrorists, then you are supporting terrorists. I know that's a blanket statement, but the way the world is today, it's the way it has to be.
1. They harbor terrorists, ok, may be connected to NY, but it is really a seperate, world issue.
2. They still have not let the UN inspectors have full access to their military bases, allowing us to tell if they have chemical or nuclear weapons.
3. Hussein has a history of attacking without provocation. As Gonz said, do we wait until the casualty count is at a certain point before we attack again, or stop the count now.
You can disagree with what our President says, that is anyones perogative, including everyone that lives in the US, but in this case, I think he's on the ball. Iraq is a time bomb in the middle east that will go off, it's just a question of when at this point. And I'm sorry if this offends you Shadow, cause otherwise I do like you, but, if you are not backing people that are fighting terrorists, then you are supporting terrorists. I know that's a blanket statement, but the way the world is today, it's the way it has to be.
One other thing, Iraq made a statement earlier this week, that the US wants to attack Iraq because of the Oil. I find this pretty damn funny unless we are trying to help out the EU, since only 4 -5 % of our oil comes from Iraq. I don't know where else it goes, but I'm assuming Europe. Anyone else know?
Don't you guys said once that countries should fight their own wars?
Irak isn't attacking the US, why should you guys worry if they attack another country? (based on the first statement)
About the oil, currently you don't have much oil income from Irak, but if you invade them and defeat them, things can change.
Irak isn't attacking the US, why should you guys worry if they attack another country? (based on the first statement)
About the oil, currently you don't have much oil income from Irak, but if you invade them and defeat them, things can change.