chcr said:Specifically where, Gato?
chcr said:As I said before, believe what you want but I find the story completely unsupporatable. I find it much more likely that this is a fable garnered from various stories of catastrophic floods that have doubtless occured time and again in the millenia that civilization has existed in the middle east.
It's always cocktail hour somewhere. Help yourself.chcr said:BTW, interesting mostly unrelated fact: 80% of the world's ice is contained in the Eastern Antarctic Ice Shelf (and 70% of the worlds fresh water if I remember correctly). Is it the cocktail hour yet?
Gotholic said:You said that the biblical writers didn't mean a global flood. I simply gave evidence that was related to the Bible that supports that the biblical writers did mean a global flood.
Now you are shifting your stance from "the biblical writers didn't mean a global flood" to "there isn't much scientific evidence for a global flood." I think I have proven the former wrong. As for the latter, I think the door can swing both ways. There is scientific evidence for a global food by what has been found. But there is a lack of evidence for a global flood by what has not been found...
While you're debating upon things that are impossible, drop a flat rock, not too massive, and a round rock of the same mass, and drop them in a pond. Measure, by guesstimate, the size of each wave. It's not mass...it's displacement.
chcr said:Umm... sense, I'm looking for sense in this sentence and I just can't find it...
That's okay though, I'm sure you know what you mean.
And what "scientific evidence" really shows is that there is quite simply not enough water.
Lopan said:No i'm not, just expanding.
One thing though, why are all your sources trying to sell me a book from Amazon? Slightly hypocritical don't you think.
There is evidence for a global flood and there is also a lack of evidence for it.
I suggest all who think that a global flood is not possible to read this article...
So, the ‘fountains of the great deep’ are probably oceanic or possibly subterranean sources of water..
Gotholic said:They're just related books on the given subject for further reading if you wish. I don't see anything hypocritical about it...
Consumerist christianity, Your soul saved for a reasonable price.
chcr said:Sorry, there is but there isn't? Sorry, but that doesn't work in English (or Latin for that matter). It makes no sense. Either there is or there is not. As I say, I'm sure it makes sense to you.
Or more likely they don't exist at all.
The temperature (by direct observation) of the earth at the depth of a few kilometers far exceeds the boiling point of water. Divine intervention???? Once again we fall back on the supernatural.
Sorry but the article doesn't "hold water."
Lopan said:Consumerist christianity, Your soul saved for a reasonable price.
There's a really good book by Julian Barnes called "History of the world in 10.5 chapters" Its a collection of short stories, many to do with christianity. The first chapter is called the stowaway. The book doesn't rubbish the idea of Noah's ark it just asks some difficult questions. Such as how come we still have termites and woodworm. Also it states that there were 8 ships and noahs children started eating some of the animals (unicorns etc).
I do think you should expand on your sources, try using non christian sites.
I try to use sources that explain well the Christian view point. There aren't too many sites that support God's involvement without actually believing in Him...
Hmm...How should I explain this to you? Lets use Michael Jackson. Is there evidence that he is a pedophile? Yes, of course there is. For example, the kid and the mother have their own stories which portray him as a pedophile. But is there a lack of evidence that Michael Jackson is a pedophile? I would say yes to that too since the mother's and child's testimony keep changing and are not in harmony.
I would say yes to that too since the mother's and child's testimony keep changing and are not in harmony.
chcr said:And of course no one but christians actually believe in god.
Don't you think that's a rather large blind spot to be working from behind?
No, there is evidence that Michael Jackson is a pedophile. There may not be enough evidence to convict. A lack of evidence means there isn't any.
To say there is evidence and there is a lack of evidence is nonsense. Do you know any English teachers? Sorry, I don't propose to be one, so let's drop it, shall we
freako104 said:that makes me question a few things. I am a victim of molestation so I have that view now: I wonder if it is because he is emotionally scarred by it and ashamed, could he have been bought? Could he have blocked out certain things about it which is common for victims?