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SouthernN'Proud

SouthernN'Proud

Southern Discomfort
The source

The headline

Widespread Persecution Of Christians Reported On By Worldwide Traveler
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The story

Darcie Gill Speaks At Tusculum Baptist

By NELSON MORAIS

Staff Writer



A representative of an organization that aids persecuted Christians around the world said here this week that the group's most frequently-received request was for prayer, including a desire by persecuted believers "to remain faithful -- and for boldness."

Darcie Gill, of the Voice of the Martyrs (VOM) organization, addressed about 75 people gathered to hear her Wednesday evening at Tusculum Baptist Church.

When she is not speaking to Christian groups in this country, Gill often travels to areas of the world that are usually very dangerous, and strongly anti-Christian.

That, she said, includes places in Pakistan, Sudan, Colombia, Indonesia, China, Myanmar (Burma), Laos, India, Cuba, Vietnam, and Kashmir, where she collects information about the persecution of Christians.

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Christians Persecuted

"The largest group of people under persecution in the world are Christians," she said. She added, "Do you ever hear that on the (secular) news programs?"

Gill then said that the fact that the persecution of Christians abroad was largely overlooked in the mainstream, secular media did not surprise her.

She cited Hebrews 13:3, which states, "Remember the prisoners as if chained with them -- those who are mistreated -- since you yourselves are in the body (of Christ) also."

On Wednesday, Gill shared several stories of persecution and how VOM was helping the victims and their families.

She said more than 50 nations are considered by VOM to be "hostile or restrictive nations" for Christians.

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Persecution Under Islam


Gill said that in all Muslim countries, the persecution of committed Christians is rampant. "The goal of Islam is to rule - for everyone to submit to it. There's just little freedom for other religions," she said. She stated that it is not uncommon for Christians in Muslim countries and Christians in some other non-Muslim nations to be severely ostracized -- to lose their homes, jobs and access even to basic health care, and to be run out of their hometowns and be separated from their families.


Brick Kiln Villages

As an example of the international persecution situations with which she has become familiar, Gill cited Pakistan, where, she said, there are many brick-kiln villages where laborers are forced to work long hours of hard labor to pay off debts related to their homes in the villages.

"People are forced to borrow against their wages. It's very hard for anyone to get out of debt," she said. "They must all meet the daily quota of making 1,000 bricks a day."

She said one day in 2006, VOM learned of a teenage girl, Azra, who had been forced to have sexual relations with a 70-year-old man who intended to marry her in two days.
Azra had been born and raised in a brick-kiln village because her family could not get out of debt and leave the area.

"At the age of seven, after her dad died, Azra and her mother, who were Christians, were forced to do a man's work and work full-time making bricks," Gill related.

"The mother stood up for the Lord, which is why they were persecuted," Gill said.
Azra and her mother used to take bread dough they made to a woman in town who for a "teeny bit of money" would bake it in her oven for them.


Woman Turned On Them

One day, however, the woman who had previously baked the dough turned on the two, saying, "Your Jesus is nothing but a Jew-dog!" Other women in the village beat the mother unconscious, and she was taken to the home of the kiln owner.

Gill said she learned that the owner and several other men raped the mother, then killed her, dissected her body, and threw the pieces into the kiln.

Azra, who was perhaps 18 or 19 years old at the time, "didn't know for 10 days what had happened to her mother," Gill said.
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The disclaimer

I do not know this person nor have I ever heard of the organization in question. There. Two avenues of smarminess nipped in the bud.

The spin

Up to y'all. I'm sure there will be plenty. S'OK. Your perfect right. Maybe we can get some of bandaid boi's buddies to lay down in the road and protest this.


BWAHAHAHAHA

I swear, sometimes I crack me up...
 
spike

spike

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Gonz

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
spike said:
It is interesting that christians have problems in other countries just as muslims do in our country.
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No shit. I really hate it when those damed southern baptists behead muslims. It makes us all look bad.
 
Gonz

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
You're right. It was just...just...damn, I forgot-when was the last one of those?
 
SouthernN'Proud

SouthernN'Proud

Southern Discomfort
Gonz said:
No shit. I really hate it when those damed southern baptists behead muslims. It makes us all look bad.
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I'm Southern, and I'm Baptist, but I ain't Southern Baptist.

Still...:thumbup:


Amazing how something can be presented clearly showing the violence perpetrated by modern day muslims, and the very self-proclaimed advocate for all things liberal jumps through his own asshole to deflect. Barak must be proud of joo...he finally found someone who hates America as much as he does. I see a VP nomination coming someone's way...
 
spike

spike

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SouthernN'Proud said:
Amazing how something can be presented clearly showing the violence perpetrated by modern day muslims, and the very self-proclaimed advocate for all things liberal jumps through his own asshole to deflect.
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Deflect? Sorry, you wanted to deflect any conversation about violence perpetrated by modern day christians or throughout history and focus on another religion.

A little "my religion is better than others" thing you spout while you ignore the actual teachings of Jesus.

Your religion has allowed you to hate and advocate killing people that disagree with you or declare them your sworn enemy and I understand why. It's easier

Barak must be proud of joo...he finally found someone who hates America as much as he does. I see a VP nomination coming someone's way...
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I love the "hates America" reference. That's vintage.

Let's just vote on it.
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

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This stuff just gets funnier and funnier. Worth reviving this thread.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LE668892.htm

Saudi cleric wants death for TV "sorcerers"
14 Sep 2008 09:52:38 GMT
Source: Reuters

RIYADH, Sept 14 (Reuters) - A senior Saudi cleric has said purveyors of horoscopes on Arab television should face the death penalty, a paper said on Sunday, days after another cleric argued death for TV owners.

"Sorcerers who appear on satellite channels who are proven to be sorcerers have committed a great crime ... and the Muslim consensus is that the apostate's punishment is death by the sword," Sheikh Saleh al-Fozan told al-Madina daily.

"Those who call in to these shows should not be accorded Muslim rites when they die," the prominent cleric added.

Many of the hundreds of Arab satellite channels have sprung up in recent years specialise in horoscopes and other advice to callers on solving problems that is seen as "sorcery".

In their capacity as judges, clerics of Saudi Arabia's austere form of Islam often sentence "sorcerers" to death.

Fozan, a member of the Higher Council of Clerics, was responding to a controversy ignited by a Council colleague, Sheikh Saleh al-Lohaidan, who said last week that owners of Arab TV shows should be tried and face death over some shows.

Lohaidan, who is the head of Saudi Arabia's Islamic sharia courts, told Saudi radio: "I want to advise the owners of these channels that broadcast programmes with indecency and vulgarity and warn them of the consequences ... They can be put to death through the judicial process."

He was referring to comedy shows and soap operas airing in Ramadan, a month of fasting when Muslims are supposed to focus on God. Critics say Ramadan has become an orgy of food and television consumption once the fast ends at sunset.

Fozan said entertainment channel owners should be "banished" but stopped short of advocating the death penalty for them.

"The position of Muslims and their rulers about these channels is that they should be talked to and if they continue airing depravity and shamelessness they should be banished from this place and others brought in their place."

Turkish soap operas that became hugely popular in Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries this year provoked a storm of anger among Saudi conservatives who fear the spread of secular culture in the key U.S. ally.

The government's official advisor on religious affairs, Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdelaziz Al al-Sheikh, said in July it was not Islamically permissible to watch the Turkish serials.

The owners of Arab entertainment channels, including MBC, ART, Orbit, Rotana and LBC, are mostly Saudi royals and businessmen closely allied to them.

Concerned about the country's international image, some key members of the Saudi royal family have promoted liberal reforms. The clerics fear plans to limit their extensive influence in what is the world's largest oil exporter. (Reporting by Andrew Hammond; Editing by Richard Balmforth)
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spike

spike

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"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters." - Jerry Falwell
 
2minkey

2minkey

bootlicker
it would be really neat if, by seeing others' irrational wackiness, it would prompt jim to examine his own.

it won't.
 
Professur

Professur

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Actually, it should be noted that the christian religion also calls for the death of witches ... including horoscope writers.
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

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spike said:
"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters." - Jerry Falwell
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I knew you would be jumping in right away to defend your Islamic bretheren.

By the way; WTF is a "chariotters".
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
By the way. It looks like your buddies are in trouble. Maybe its time for you to change sides. By the way. Did they spell "Al Qaeda" correctly? I assume you'd know.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423082,00.html

U.S. Officials: Al Qaeda Unpopular and 'Imploding'
Tuesday, September 16, 2008

WASHINGTON — Top U.S. counterterrorism officials Monday said Al Qaeda is "imploding" and that its violent tactics have turned Muslims worldwide against the organization.

"Absolutely it's imploding. It's imploding because it's not a message that resonates with a lot of Muslims," said Dell Dailey, the State Department's coordinator for counterterrorism.

Al Qaeda still remains the most dangerous threat to the United States. But of growing concern are organizations like Lebanese Hezbollah and Hamas, which combine social services, local governance, national politics with extremist attacks, said Undersecretary of State James Glassman.

"These are models that have a lot more popular appeal than Al Qaeda, that has almost no popular appeal," he said.

Vastly more Muslims than Westerners are killed by Al Qaeda car and suicide bombs, particularly in Iraq, where local tribes have largely turned against Al Qaeda in Iraq in the last two years.

Extremist violence claimed more than 9,500 civilian victims in Muslim countries in 2007.

U.S. intelligence agencies caution against predicting Al Qaeda's demise too soon, noting its Pakistan safe harbor and the persistent efforts of its affiliates to conduct attacks in North Africa and elsewhere.

U.S. intelligence officials told The Associated Press in July that Al Qaeda leaders learned from Iraq to temper their local activities to ensure continued access and freedom of movement throughout the organization's safe haven in Pakistan. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

Some hardline religious leaders who once wielded significant influence in Al Qaeda have begun to criticize its violence against civilians, said Ted Gistaro, the national intelligence officer for transnational threats, in an August speech. Gistaro said Al Qaeda senior leaders have devoted nearly half their airtime this year to defending the group's legitimacy.

Despite these apparent fissures, Al Qaeda is the most potent threat to the United States, according to U.S. intelligence officials and reports. A national intelligence assessment released last year said Al Qaeda had regenerated its leadership and ability to conduct attacks in the ungoverned tribal region of western Pakistan.

Afghanistan has grown increasingly violent because of the close ties and collaboration between the Pakistan tribes, the Taliban and the terrorist organization. Al Qaeda continues to attract new fighters to fight U.S. forces in Afghanistan, and radical Internet sites that provide religious justification for attacks and violent anti-Western rhetoric are spreading.

Glassman said he is "skeptical" about claims that Al Qaeda is changing its ways, or is even capable of changing its ways.

"The death-cult mentality is part of Al Qaeda's DNA. An Al Qaeda that could adapt would be a far more dangerous Al Qaeda," he said.
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