ResearchMonkey
Well-Known Member
Build it double TALL, double STRONG and build it TWO rows DEEP. Leave a 20m wide kill box, there's your penalty.
It's a bargain!
It's a bargain!
Drug War in Mexico
- Thread starter valkyrie
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spike
New Member
Oh, you indicated you knew there was a penalty and what it was so I was interested. Turns out you don't know anything about it. Maybe you meant to say "don't trust me" instead of "trust me"?
RM, you're kidding yourself if you think a fence between Mexico and the US would stop people from crossing the border. These fences are cut all the time. I would prefer my tax dollars not wasted on solutions we know have failed in the past.
It's better to present no solution, or one with holes (no pun intended) than to do something, however temporary, until a more permanent solution can be had?
spike
New Member
How about going after the employers of illegals and stop the motivation for coming here?
Maybe do something effective instead of wasting a shit ton of tax money.
Winky
Well-Known Member
Yup it's all the fault of those evil business men.
Your side is so predictable it's boring me to tears.
That is the one measure that causes harm to an innocent party
the business man and does nothing to stop the problem
which is what your side wants anyway.
An illegal alien is illegal they are the lawbreakers
not the quote unquote business men that provide jobs
Oh yes destroy capitalism it is evil!
Then who will pay the taxes to fund you utopian workers paradise?
shaddup
Your side is so predictable it's boring me to tears.
That is the one measure that causes harm to an innocent party
the business man and does nothing to stop the problem
which is what your side wants anyway.
An illegal alien is illegal they are the lawbreakers
not the quote unquote business men that provide jobs
Oh yes destroy capitalism it is evil!
Then who will pay the taxes to fund you utopian workers paradise?
shaddup
Chasing your own tail is just a waste of time and resources. There are better solutions but no one wants to address them because of the political climate.
Amnesty: no!
It doesn't take a genius to see our current system needs an overhaul.
They keep coming for the jobs. So why not make that work for us. If we could document these temporary workers and tax their wages to pay for the program then our problem would be solved. These people aren't coming here for our IT jobs, their coming her to pluck chickens and mow lawns. Those are jobs I don't want to do. So let them do them, but register them as temporary workers so we know who's coming in.
Those employers put out fliers in Mexico to lure them to the US for what the Mexicans see as higher wages than they could ever earn in their own country. It is their fault and if it is illegal to hire an undocumented worker then those employers should be prosecuted as lawbreakers as well.
Winky
Well-Known Member
Oh gee I’m a five year old
(try fifty one sis)
I haven’t watched what has gone on in this
country over the decades?
It’s not like I live in Phoenix Arizona er sumthin’ ?
It’s illegal to hire an illegal
It’s illegal to cross illegally into the United States
It’s illegal to be in this country illegally
It’s illegal to steal someone’s identity, use their SSN
and hold a job in this country.
It’s illegal to drive without a driver’s license
(unless of course you are an illegal)
It’s illegal to drive without auto insurance in Arizona
(unless of course you are an illegal)
Then when we passed AZ Bill 1070 to try to enforce
just some of these laws
We became the illegals.
They are going to ram thru another amnesty
don’t doubt that for one freakin’ millisecond.
(try fifty one sis)
I haven’t watched what has gone on in this
country over the decades?
It’s not like I live in Phoenix Arizona er sumthin’ ?
It’s illegal to hire an illegal
It’s illegal to cross illegally into the United States
It’s illegal to be in this country illegally
It’s illegal to steal someone’s identity, use their SSN
and hold a job in this country.
It’s illegal to drive without a driver’s license
(unless of course you are an illegal)
It’s illegal to drive without auto insurance in Arizona
(unless of course you are an illegal)
Then when we passed AZ Bill 1070 to try to enforce
just some of these laws
We became the illegals.
They are going to ram thru another amnesty
don’t doubt that for one freakin’ millisecond.
Winky
Well-Known Member
Legalize everything!
America does not have the right to protect is own border.
America does not have the right to decide who lives here or not.
America does not have the right to espouse it’s own culture and traditions
as that would be considered racist.
But any sumbitch that can get his ass onto our soil has a right
to all the rights of our citizens and does not have to have one whit of allegiance
to out country.
I say poppycock!
America does not have the right to protect is own border.
America does not have the right to decide who lives here or not.
America does not have the right to espouse it’s own culture and traditions
as that would be considered racist.
But any sumbitch that can get his ass onto our soil has a right
to all the rights of our citizens and does not have to have one whit of allegiance
to out country.
I say poppycock!
spike
New Member
That's a pretty biased site. I've seen estimates of our current fencing plans higher than 8 billion and that's not talking about anything close to what you're talking about.
spike
New Member
Exactly, if we went after the employers hard they would have to stop hiring illegals. If there were no jobs for illegals there wouldn't be much motivation to come here.
Construction, meat processing, and agriculture are probably some of the biggest offenders.
Obviously the price of meat, produce, and construction would go way up and a lot of people aren't going to like that.
spike
New Member
How do you figure?