While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks away".

[spike]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

You never showed me any enumerated power to bring other countries out of the 2nd centrury.

 

[Winky]

While Rome burns Obammie tries to take over more of the country

Swear to Gawd it's right there next to the
right to a government funded abortion!

 

[spike]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

I hadn't heard about that one.

 

[Gotholic]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC3q8H0JIbE

Flip flop Obama. Kinda reminds me of Kerry. What Obama says and does is quite hypocritical.

 

[Cerise]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

Speaking truth to power!

 

[Cerise]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

"Can't I just eat my waffles?"

Crispy, buttery, and syrupy. And maybe w/baconey....and some coffee. Don't forget a glass of ice cold milk. Mmmm, Mmmmm, Mmmmm.

 

[spike]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

He likes waffles? Oh my gods!

 

[Mirlyn]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

Leggo my Eggo! Kellogg fights waffle shortage

By DORIE TURNER (AP) – 4 days ago

ATLANTA — Dear Kellogg: Leggo my Eggo!

Kellogg Co. says there will be a nationwide shortage of its popular Eggo frozen waffles until next summer because of interruptions in production at two of the four plants that make them.

The company's Atlanta plant was shut down for an undisclosed period by a September storm that dumped historic amounts of rain in the area. Meanwhile, several production lines at its largest bakery in Rossville, Tenn., are closed indefinitely for repairs, company spokeswoman Kris Charles said in an e-mail.

It will take until the middle of 2010 before shelves around the country are stocked at pre-shutdown levels, Charles said.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iTr0nOlK96hCpXXkCvWMUXl5I2tgD9C26EQ00

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

God forbid that Atlanta get any rainfall, we need MORE WAFFLES.

 

[Gonz]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

We've got a 50lb bag of flour in the pantry, eggs, oil & assorted baking goods...and a waffle iron.

hehe

WE CONTROL THE WORLD!!!!!!!

 

[Mirlyn]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

We had buttermilk waffles this morning.

We've got a 50lb bag of flour in the pantry, eggs, oil & assorted baking goods...and a waffle iron.

hehe

WE CONTROL THE WORLD!!!!!!!

eBay that shit.

 

[catocom]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

I have a friend named eggo
nope not a nickname. That's what his momma named him.

 

[Cerise]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

The waffles are nearly done

The powerful chairman of the House Appropriations Committee has a stark message for President Obama about Afghanistan -- sending more troops would be a mistake that could "wipe out every initiative we have to rebuild our own economy."

"There ain't going to be no money for nothing if we pour it all into Afghanistan," House Appropriations Chairman David Obey told ABC News in an exclusive interview. "If they ask for an increased troop commitment in Afghanistan, I am going to ask them to pay for it."

Obey speaks in triple negatives.

obama just wants to play golf.

 

[MrBishop]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

"I want the president and every American to think ahead of time about what it means if you do add to our involvement in Afghanistan," Obey told ABC News. "I am no military strategist, but I don't believe we have the tools to accomplish our mission in Afghanistan because you have to have functioning, effective government and there isn't one in Afghanistan. There isn't one in Pakistan either."

 

[jimpeel]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

Oo! Oo! Oo! We are now "within days" of our fearless leader making a decision on sending troops to Afghanistan. Oo! Oo! Oo!

SOURCE

Updated November 23, 2009
Obama to Announce Afghan War Strategy Decision 'Within Days'

by AP

Military officials and others expect the president to settle on a middle-ground option that would deploy an eventual 32,000 to 35,000 U.S. forces to the 8-year-old conflict.

WASHINGTON -- The White House braced for a tough sell of President Barack Obama's long-awaited decision on whether to commit tens of thousands of new U.S. forces to the stalemated war in Afghanistan, even as the president met Monday with top advisers for the last major discussion before an announcement "within days."

Military officials and others expect Obama to settle on a middle-ground option that would deploy an eventual 32,000 to 35,000 U.S. forces to the 8-year-old conflict. That rough figure has stood as the most likely option since before Obama's last large war council meeting earlier this month, when he tasked military planners with rearranging the timing and makeup of some of the deployments.

The president has said with increasing frequency in recent days that a big piece of the rethinking of options that he ordered had to do with building an exit strategy into the announcement -- in other words, revising the options presented to him to clarify when U.S. troops would turn over responsibility to the Afghan government and under what conditions.

As White House press secretary Robert Gibbs put it to reporters on Monday, it's "not just how we get people there, but what's the strategy for getting them out."

Obama held the 10th meeting of his Afghanistan strategy review since mid-September on Monday night, with a large cast of foreign policy and military advisers, to go over that revised information from war planners. The two-hour Situation Room session was aimed at discussing "some of the questions that the president had, some additional answers to what he'd asked for," Gibbs said.

The spokesman said the president left the war council meeting without announcing a decision to the group, but added it would become public soon.

"After completing a rigorous final meeting, President Obama has the information he wants and needs to make his decision and he will announce that decision within days," Gibbs said late Monday.

The spokesman said the president did not share his thinking on what he would speak about when he makes an announcement.

The meeting was arranged for the unusual nighttime slot to accommodate both Obama's packed public schedule on Monday and the fact that many of his top advisers were leaving town for the holiday. No more war council meetings are on the calendar.

The presidential spokesman had said ahead of the meeting that it was possible Obama could lock in a decision then, or that one could come "over the course of the next several days." In either case, it will not be announced this week, he said, and the meeting concluded with no announcement about a decision.

The White House is aiming for an announcement by Obama next week, either Tuesday or Wednesday, after Congress returns from its break for the harvest holiday of Thanksgiving.

Military officials, congressional aides and European diplomats said they expect Obama to deliver a national address laying out the revamped strategy. Obama said in a television interview last week: "At the end of this process, I'm going to be able to present to the American people in very clear terms what exactly is at stake, what we intend to do, how we're going to succeed, how much it's going to cost, how long it's going to take."

Congressional hearings would immediately follow that address, including testimony from the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal. Others likely to take part in hearings would be Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry. All four were among the approximately 20 top administration officials and Obama advisers participating in the talks Monday night -- one of the biggest groups gathered for these sessions in some time.

Obama must not only sell his plan to the public, but to foreign allies whose additional resources the White House wants in Afghanistan and to lawmakers on Capitol Hill who would be asked the fund the effort.

Gibbs said that the subject of a war tax on the wealthy, proposed by a handful of leading Democrats, has not come up yet in the president's extensive war council meetings. But the idea, though unlikely to pass Congress, is one way for Democrats who are coming to dislike the war in greater numbers to challenge the president to confront the cost of any escalation.

Democratic allies of the president, such as House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin, have become more outspoken on the war in other forums as well.

The force infusion expected by the military would represent most but not all the troops requested by Obama's war commander, for a retailored war plan that blends elements of McChrystal's counterterror strategy with tactics more closely associated with the CIA's unacknowledged war to hunt down terrorists across the border in Pakistan.

McChrystal presented options ranging from about 10,000 to about 80,000 forces, and told Obama he preferred an addition of about 40,000 atop the record 68,000 in the country now, officials have said.

Obama has already ordered a significant expansion of 21,000 troops since taking office. The war has worsened on his watch, and public support has dropped as U.S. combat deaths have climbed.

The additional troops would be concentrated in the south and east of Afghanistan, the areas where the U.S. already has most of its forces, military officials said. The new troops that already went this year were directed to help relieve Marines stretched to the limit by far-flung postings in Helmand province and that would continue, while the U.S. effort would expand somewhat in Kandahar.

The increase would include at least three Army brigades and a single, larger Marine Corps contingent, officials said.

All officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision is not final.

U.S. war planners would be forgoing the option of increasing U.S. fighting power in the north, a once-quiet quadrant where insurgents have grown in strength and number in the past year. But McChrystal's recommendation never called for a quick infusion there.

In the absence of large additions of ground forces, dealing with the north would probably require relying more heavily on air power, two military officials said. Any such additional air strikes would be more successful if, as U.S. officials hope, Pakistan turns up the heat on Taliban militants on their side of the border.

As originally envisioned by McChrystal, the additional U.S. troops would begin flowing in late January or after, on a deployment calendar that would be slower and more complex than that used to build up the Iraq "surge" in 2007. McChrystal's schedule for full deployment has it taking nearly two years, military officials said.

The relatively slow rollout is largely driven by logistics. But it also could give the White House some leverage over Afghan President Hamid Karzai. U.S. officials note that where and how fast troops are deployed are a means to encourage fresh and more serious efforts at cooperation and clean government in Afghanistan.

 

[catocom]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

better late than never I guess

 

[MrBishop]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

I guess that you prefer the snap-decisions over the well-thought out one's, right Jim?

 

[catocom]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

looks like he's going with McCrystal's preferred decision.
Yep, in War, sometimes 'snap decisions' are called for.

The thing is...if one sees a certain decision isn't working as 'planned',
one should quickly make another decision to change coarse again.

Like..I think it's the marines say...'Adapt and overcome'.
Obama is slow, and Bush failed to 'turn' quick enough imo.
Enough about bush now though...this is obama's baby now, and I hope
he's not going to continue in those former footsteps, or as it looks, drag
his feet even more, either way.

 

[MrBishop]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

On the ground, sure life and death decisions must often be snap decisions.

Sending in more troops, even if decided tomorrow, would still require weeks to make happen. Just prepping the equipment and the troops alone will take time.

Apples and Orang-otangs

 

[catocom]

Re: While American troops dead or wounded daily, Obama's decision on troops "weeks aw

that's the thing...while the 'prepping' you are talking about is being done,
those 'on the ground' are Still on the ground.

Gotta git it 'n go!