Israel? Gaza? Hamas? Who? What? Where?
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chcr
Too cute for words
I really don't know and neither do you. It would entirely depend on the circumstances. I do know that in Gaza the average Palestinian understands that standing up to Hamas in any way is dooming yourself and your family. It's easy to talk about standing up to them from halfway around the world. It's something else again to sentence your wife and children to death to make a point.
BTW, you do realize that in your fantasy scenario you'd be the one arrested and sent to prison, right?
What happened to "to the victor go the spoils"?
2minkey
bootlicker
perhaps "ability to discern right from wrong" would be the answer, rather than "decades of plunder?"
2minkey
bootlicker
should we be seizing land in germany as we feel like it? golly i think i'd like to open a sauerkraut hut in dusseldorf! hey, we won the war!!!
if every year your rude hypothetical neighbor took another three feet of your backyard - and hit you or your snot-faced kid with a baseball bat anytime you said "hey, that's my yard," would you just lay back and take it?
and what if that same neighbor suddenly owned the company you work for?
feeling good about this yet?
if every year your rude hypothetical neighbor took another three feet of your backyard - and hit you or your snot-faced kid with a baseball bat anytime you said "hey, that's my yard," would you just lay back and take it?
and what if that same neighbor suddenly owned the company you work for?
feeling good about this yet?
Israel is taking land? 
They were attacked...they beat back the attackers. (twice)
They used the attackers land to create a buffer zone.(twice)
This time, they entered an area controlled by a faction of the previos attackers to make them stop attacking.
Where was all this concern of yours 6 months ago when rockets were landing in Israel? Several a day, every day...I don't recall any UN Security Council resolutions telling Hamas to quit.
They were attacked...they beat back the attackers. (twice)
They used the attackers land to create a buffer zone.(twice)
This time, they entered an area controlled by a faction of the previos attackers to make them stop attacking.
Where was all this concern of yours 6 months ago when rockets were landing in Israel? Several a day, every day...I don't recall any UN Security Council resolutions telling Hamas to quit.
JJR512
New Member
Well, clearly, there can only be one possible good solution to this issue. It's quite apparent to me now that the USA needs to invade the area, smack the local people around a bit, execute the political heads, put our own people in place, and tell them what to do with themselves and their newly God-given* peace.
* "God-give" of course means "USA-given" because of course the USA is the ultimate power in the world.
Hey, it worked in Iraq, right?
* "God-give" of course means "USA-given" because of course the USA is the ultimate power in the world.
Hey, it worked in Iraq, right?
2minkey
bootlicker
Israel is taking land?
nope. of course not. they are blameless and perfect. this is one of those one in a bazillion instances where it did not take two to tango.
As property owners, we are, in our own way, sovereign nations. So, the neightbor starts a war & loses, I'll take 10' of his & put an eight foot fence up. Seems reasonable. When the debris starts raining over the top, it escalates until, eventually, I own his property & kick him off it.
2minkey
bootlicker
sure. don't forget to kill his some of his kids while you're at it. and don't wonder why his remaining kids hate your guts.
MrBishop
Well-Known Member
Israel is settling land (legally and illegally) and expanding their providence.Israel is taking land?
They were attacked...they beat back the attackers. (twice)
They used the attackers land to create a buffer zone.(twice)
This time, they entered an area controlled by a faction of the previos attackers to make them stop attacking.
Where was all this concern of yours 6 months ago when rockets were landing in Israel? Several a day, every day...I don't recall any UN Security Council resolutions telling Hamas to quit.
Why aren't the 1917 palestinian territories properly marked by actual controllers of the land? (Jordan, Syria, Egypt, etc)
From 1948 until 1967, Israel was happy with their land. It wasn't until they were attacked, again, then repeatedly, that they began incusions into Gaza & the West Bank.
From 1948 until 1967, Israel was happy with their land. It wasn't until they were attacked, again, then repeatedly, that they began incusions into Gaza & the West Bank.
2minkey
bootlicker
what matters is who had LIVED THERE for generations longer than anyone can remember.
hey gonz, the native americans want your little plot of land back. whattya think? they been gone less than two centuries.
obviously a much more substantial claim than perhaps a group of people that hadn't really lived around there for more than ten centuries, huh?
shit maybe the vikings should reclaim some english coastal towns right about now, huh?
hey lemme check with some people i know - maybe i can help get you that job as mascot for the IDF. i can see you're up to speed on your cheers and pom pom routines! now i wonder if the suit would fit after you quit smoking...
hey gonz, the native americans want your little plot of land back. whattya think? they been gone less than two centuries.
obviously a much more substantial claim than perhaps a group of people that hadn't really lived around there for more than ten centuries, huh?
shit maybe the vikings should reclaim some english coastal towns right about now, huh?
hey lemme check with some people i know - maybe i can help get you that job as mascot for the IDF. i can see you're up to speed on your cheers and pom pom routines! now i wonder if the suit would fit after you quit smoking...
Jordanians? Egyptians? Syrians? Lebanese? Arabs, in general? Jews?
The group you're talking about have been nomadic since...well, since. They never had a formal government. They didn't live in Camel Shits in the Desert estates. They've been kicked around by the more formally united Arabs since, well, since. Nobody wants them. Nobody wants to protect them. Nobody wants to take up their cause. They are scapegoats for some Arab leaders to get their subjects looking elsewhere. Once they stop allowing outsiders to come in & creat havoc, in their name, there will be peace. Many, many Palestians, Arabs in general for that matter, live peaceably in Israel. All's well until you start bombing shit.