No wonder I despise bipartisanship

[Luis G]

Oh, I didn't say there is "peace and quiet", just that that aspect is/was toned down some.

People are getting crazy, I still don't know why, it is weird indeed that such aspect had toned down over there.

 

[Gato_Solo]

People are getting crazy, I still don't know why, it is weird indeed that such aspect had toned down over there.

Calm before the storm, perhaps? A strengthening of resolve by the citizens?

 

[Winky]

No, the silent majority has gone mute.

 

[Gato_Solo]

Really? Then again, check the responses...

 

[Gonz]

This region around the town of St. George in Washington County (which has grown about 40 percent since 2000)

I would have (and had) considered moving there after seeing it. Idylic locale, scenic & outdoorsy. No longer

 

[Winky]

Lindsay got a DUI oh no!
I liked Mean Girls.

Oh you mean the article about beanners?

I've been up to my ass in them for 20+ years
coming to a theatre (of societal combat) near you soon.

What's the latest on Paris's upcoming jail stay?
What new movies are coming out?

My kid went to private school 1st thru 12th
wait til you see what happens to your (public) school system when
60-70+ percent of the students are illegals!

 

[catocom]

Because the Hall County public school system consists of students that are overwhelmingly Mexican and whose parents are illegal immigrants. Most do not own homes, or work illegally with fraudulent or stolen social security numbers, so they do NOT pay taxes that would help support the public school system. Yet, the majority of the children who go to the county schools are theirs.

http://gacrimewatch.blogspot.com/2007/05/illegal-immigration-and-american-public.html

 

[unclehobart]

I don't mind illegals so much if they actually carry the basic load as a citizen and pay their taxes... but the vast ranks that live off of the government tit need to be shown the door. The laws are already on the books and we choose to ignore the whole thing. sad.

 

[catocom]

always back to money corruption...
There's more money in traffic tickets, and other citations to citizens, that will actually pay the fines.

Then there's the lobbyist.....
friggin' gov.

 

[Luis G]

I don't mind illegals so much if they actually carry the basic load as a citizen and pay their taxes... but the vast ranks that live off of the government tit need to be shown the door. The laws are already on the books and we choose to ignore the whole thing. sad.

Dunno much about your system, but shouldn't their employee be paying their taxes? (grammar? , pm please)

Over here, workers on the payroll have their taxes automatically cut off from their cheque, unless the worker decides to present his revenues/expenses and get a possible tax refund.

OTOH, aren't all items taxed anyway? Even if their employee isn't paying their taxes, they are still paying consumption taxes. Whether it is food, gasoline, clothes or anything they are contributing.

 

[spike]

Over here, workers on the payroll have their taxes automatically cut off from their cheque, unless the worker decides to present his revenues/expenses and get a possible tax refund.

That's pretty much the same here. However some employers will pay employees in cash and not report the payment so that person is not officially an employee.

This benefits the employer since they can get out of paying worker's compensation and other things if it was an official employee. Worker's comp hits some businesses pretty hard, especially construction contractors and such.

Construction contractors will often even pay their employees who are legal citizens in cash to get around this.

Any immigration policy that doesn't take into account the motivations for hiring illegals is pretty silly.

OTOH, aren't all items taxed anyway? Even if their employee isn't paying their taxes, they are still paying consumption taxes. Whether it is food, gasoline, clothes or anything they are contributing.

True, they do still pay consumption taxes. Could be an interesting angle.

I think there's a thread here somewhere about moving away from income based taxes to more consumption based taxes.

 

[Winky]

we choose to ignore the whole thing.

Thats a mighty fine plan I'd say, its werked so far...!

 

[Winky]

It is preposterous to talk about a massive influx of Hispanic immigrants
accomplishing anything other than turning America into yet
another Latin American-style banana republic

 

[Winky]

illegals get bummed out too

 

[catocom]

but, but they 'only' want to come here to work, and make a better life for themselves...

http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/hall/newfullstory.asp?ID=114693

 

[catocom]

I got an error when posting that last reply, and it didn't update on the main page.

 

[Gonz]

Her self-esteem was building up."

I've got a sure fire way to "build your self-esteem".

Do something worthy.

 

[spike]

but, but they 'only' want to come here to work, and make a better life for themselves...

http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/hall/newfullstory.asp?ID=114693

I think you're right that most of them just want to make a better life for themselves and their families,

What's the article linked for though? Doesn't seem to be about an illegal.

 

[catocom]

I'm well aware of your stance spike, you don't have to play dumb.

 

[chcr]

It is preposterous to talk about a massive influx of Hispanic immigrants
accomplishing anything other than turning America into yet
another Latin American-style banana republic

Never ceases to amaze me how few people seem to understand that equalizing the global (or even hemispherical) standard of living will first mean that ours will go down.